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todsacerdoti | 2024-12-17 | 3128

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doctoboggan

2024-12-17
As a big fan of both the Moon and ciechanow.ski this article is right up my alley.

During the 2024 solar eclipse I was explaining to people how an eclipse must occur during a new moon, and this article would have really helped. The discussion also made me realize how little most people spend thinking about the solar system and the relationship between the moon, sun, and earth. These things fascinate me (I think it's just the sheer scale of it all), and I hope to be able to get more people interested as well. The solar eclipse was great for that!

sbaner2k

2024-12-17
the author is different gravy

rogual

2024-12-17
This is what JavaScript is for.

halyconWays

2024-12-17
We like the moon! Because it is so close to us.

wcrossbow

2024-12-17
The Moon also plays currently a very special role in my life and my work days are dictated to a large extent by the current Moon phase :)

It's not discussed in the article but we have detailed models (ROLO[0] and LIME[1]) for how much light is reflected from the Moon and can be captured by a telescope. Like this one can radiometrically calibrate a telescope, that is, find a mapping between the digital numbers coming out from the sensor and actual radiance values.

[0] https://www.usgs.gov/media/files/rolo-lunar-model-and-databa... [1] https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/24/3649/2024/

gclawes

2024-12-17
Moon should be a state

725686

2024-12-17
You might also enjoy minutephysics video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBcxuM-qXec

guax

2024-12-17
Is there a name for this category of website? I am seeing content like this — elaborate, animated, interactive — more often here and I wonder if its part of a new corner of the internet I am not familiar with. Looks dope.

max_

2024-12-17
This is the future of STEM education.

Well written, decently comprehensive interactive documents.

I think such formats should be prioritised instead of textbooks for creating learning materials.

I am really surprised almost no one is doubling down on something like this. Brilliant comes close, but its not at this level.

Everyone in Edtech seems to be running towards AI gimmicks.

Thank you Ciechanowski!

jcims

2024-12-17
This is wonderful!!! Generalizing here but we really do take the moon for granted.

I bought a 'big ass telescope' a few years ago in an effort to bootstrap a hobby that I'd flirted with for decades but never really committed to. It's a Celestron 11" SCT and I really had no idea what I was getting into. When I think of space I think of things that are really small in the night sky, planets, galaxies, nebula...(turns out most of them aren't *that* small and I overshot the targets I had in mind)

I kept trying to photo galaxies and star clusters and all of these exotic things but had a bunch of trouble with tracking with long exposures. Out of frustration I ended up just pointing it at the boring ol' moon to at least get used to the equipment and workflows.

I fell in love with Luna.

The magnification of this scope really allowed me to explore the surface in a way I never had before. I got to know the 'map' and suddenly related to our celestial neighbor in a whole new way. It was also the very first image I was actually not embarrassed to share - https://imgur.com/a/t9b1Uug

I since then improved my knowledge and technical skill but the month of the moon at the end of 2021 was really pretty spectacular for me.

bradarner

2024-12-17
This is why the internet is amazing!

Awe-inspiring. Beautiful.

How does the author build these pages? Looks like it is React. The entire blog must be custom built, no? Or is this built on top of an existing CMS?

xnx

2024-12-17
The very first interactive element is a great example of why ciechanow.ski is so great. Similar animations from other sources would probably limit to 28 frames and fake the image (using a simple mask). On ciechanow.ski there are hundreds(?) of frames and uses a bump map(?) to show accurate crater shadows on the moon's surface.

parpfish

2024-12-17
years back i came across this moon-related modeling problem on stackoverflow (i'm not the original poster)[0] and it's stuck with me that this seems like something that should have an easy solution.

An HN thread about how cool the moon is seems like a good place to resurface it.

But the question is this:

The crescent of the moon face is tilted based and the angle of that tile depends on the viewer's latitude on earth. Is there an equation that maps viewer latitude to the tilt of the moon crescent?

[0] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22392045/calculating-moo...

axus

2024-12-17
One thing I've noticed while looking at the Moon, the "dark" part is lit enough to see that it's an orb and not really being eaten by darkness. This webpage doesn't do that, I guess it's from a different perspective without the earth shining on the Moon.

RALaBarge

2024-12-17
Thank you, I am going to show parts of this to my daughter!

edferda

2024-12-17
I haven’t read the article but Bartosz articles are so good and enjoyable to read that I get excited whenever I see a new one pop up. I have already set some time aside tonight to read it with care.

Bartosz if you are reading this: thank you so much for these articles. You truly are an inspiration and I can only hope one day I get to be as good a communicator as you are.

eitau_1

2024-12-17
On an unrelated note, on the Sunday we had a major lunar standstill i.e. the full Moon at its highest orbit (as seen from northern hemisphere). It happens every 18.5 years.

empath75

2024-12-17
I can't tell you how excited I get everyone time he does a new one of these. They have all the delight and wonder of a child's pop-up book, but with the depth of a college text book. Consistently one of the best things on the internet.

dheera

2024-12-17
Related personal story:

On January 6, 2023, at approximately noon, I happened to take a flight from Svolvær, Norway to Bodø, Norway, which, took me from 21.8 degrees latitude to 22.8 degrees latitude, which took me from [just inside polar night] to [just inside daytime].

I saw the moon at takeoff and the sun at landing.

It was an absolutely miraculous, specatular coincidence -- the latitudes I was flying over, the time, the date, the moon phase, the flight path.

This flight allowed me to have a full 3D view of space -- the moon, the Earth, the sun, all within an hour.

It was the first time I felt that the moon and sun weren't just discs flying around the sky randomly, but rather that I was the one flying through space, had a 3D sense of where the moon was behind me and where the sun was peeking ahead of me, and that the Earth felt curved as I moved out of the view of the moon and into the view of the sun.

My pictures and whiteboard illustration:

https://imgur.com/TYFAdoP

belfalas

2024-12-17
The moon is so interesting, easy to forget how much it affects life on Earth because we see it all the time.

Like others in the thread, I have a telescope and it's a wonderful experience pointing it skyward while it's still light out and the moon is visible. Then I can really see all the craters and "pock marks" on the surface. (My telescope isn't good enough to be able to see anything during a full moon, it all just becomes washed out.)

MaxGripe

2024-12-17
De revolutionibus orbium coelestium

divbzero

2024-12-17
What an amazing exploration, from watching the sun set over moon craters in the first graphic to the simulation of how the Moon formed and the lucid explanations of tidal locking and axial precession.

As with many of the author’s posts, the underlying code can be an interesting read as well: https://ciechanow.ski/js/moon.js

throw-the-towel

2024-12-17
ciechanow.ski on the frontpage? Instantly upvoted.

siavosh

2024-12-17
It really is a marvel. I'm grateful society has such subject matter experts, that they have the technical skills to share it, have a passion to share it, and dedicate the time and effort to do so at such a level.

Terr_

2024-12-17
There's a collection of little facts I imagine being useful if a human got stranded somewhere in the universe and helpful aliens weren't sure where to take you. Without books and electronics, what could you memorize that would help them search and identify Sol/Earth in their big astral database?

This is one of them, the seemingly-pure-coincidence of solar eclipses where the apparent size of the moon equals the apparent size of the sun.

Ratios in general would be handy, since they would not depend on difficult-to-calibrate units: The moon is ~1/6 times the mass of our Earth; the biggest planet Jupiter/#5 is 2.5x the mass of all the rest and 5.2x the distance from the sun compared to Earth/#3, etc.

hosolmaz

2024-12-17
Wake up babe, new Bartosz Ciechanowski post dropped

praptak

2024-12-17
The initial simulations might give you a slightly wrong idea about the shape of Moon's orbit around the Sun. It doesn't form any loops (you can see that in the later more precise simulation) and is in fact convex (this one is a bit harder to see).

hassleblad23

2024-12-17
Ds

zombiwoof

2024-12-17
Amazing

DiggyJohnson

2024-12-17
Really excellent. Since I live in a high rise I've marked the cardinal directions on the floor and walls and been trying to develop a spatial intuition for the ecliptic, essentially trying to be able to easily imagine myself tilted in the northern hemisphere subtropics rotating around a sphere rotating around the sun. End goal would be an automatic intuition of where to look for the Sun, Moon, and all the visible planets. This sounds insane typing it out but its very passive and genuinely satisfying. Not being on the equator and the natural tilt of the Earth are the two factors that make this most difficult, of course.

lizmutton

2024-12-17
Another masterpiece I am sure!

hassleblad23

2024-12-17
Amazing!

syncsynchalt

2024-12-17
Bartosz has a patreon where you can sponsor these works, and on it he posts very detailed explainers of why and how he created each page.

The one for Moon is at https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-moon-118130286

ustad

2024-12-17
Holy crap! only afew hours ago i was scraping his site and hoarding the delicious javascript. I wondered how long its been since the airfoil post and, bam! , a new article! More juicy javascript to hoard!

vldmrs

2024-12-17
His blog posts are always amazing, very detailed and exceptionally visual

hassleblad23

2024-12-17
It is fascinating how much the Moon matters to us, yet it is largely ignored.

hei-lima

2024-12-17
Wonderful! A masterpiece.

nikitasherman

2024-12-17
I'm glad to know the author and me share the same earth (and the moon)!

paulpauper

2024-12-17
Without even clicking I now know what it is going to be. Single word title and lots of votes.

I wonder if single word titles helps with SEO

https://www.google.com/search?q=Moon

right on front page #7 . good job

0wis

2024-12-17
Wonderful ! Even if I am not super interested in the topic, the explanations are so clear and the animations so nice that I have admiration for the work done. Full mastery of the web medium that makes an explanation way clearer that any paper could. Would love to work on a similar projet on economics & personal finance. Thanks for sharing !

mopsi

2024-12-17
Something has gone terribly wrong when such beautiful, but essentially simple interactive graphics feel like an expensive and exotic gift, rather than something readily supported by widely used editors. A decade or more ago, I would've turned to Flash to create something like this, but now I wouldn't even know where to start.

ricardobeat

2024-12-17
I had to wait ten or fifteen minutes for a couple orbits to see if it would stick, but a little moon formed in the accretion example:

https://postimg.cc/Y4LTzLBk

This made me happy.

beeforpork

2024-12-17
Great as usual!

But I do prefer metric units.

PaulDavisThe1st

2024-12-17
Related: last Sunday (December 15th) was the *luna*stice - the northernmost endpoint of the moon's 18.6 year cycle during which the rise/set points move between north and south. On Sunday it was as far north as it gets, and for the next generation it will move slowly south and then back again.

This cycle has been known to some humans for more than 3000 years, and appears to have helped structure architecture/layout at various American locations such as Chaco Canyon (New Mexico) 1000 years ago. It takes a minimum of 3 generations to establish the cycle, which indicates something about the level of social and scientific organization in these societies.

erbdex

2024-12-17
“And still, after all this time, the Sun has never said to the Earth, "You owe me." Look what happens with love like that. It lights up the sky.”

― Rumi

hubraumhugo

2024-12-17
Ciechanowski is likely the best content producer of our time, absolutely fascinating reads. Imagine having such a person as a teacher - he could probably excite students about any scientific topic.

I'd love to spend my time working on such articles when I'm retired :)

markfsharp

2024-12-17
Wow! Just wow! Very good.

thallavajhula

2024-12-17
Huge fan of Bartosz. I love their posts. I saw the post link and it instantly put a smile on my face 'cause I know I would love it even before opening the link and the post did not disappoint.

In the 2nd graphic, they use of location to display the tiny person on the globe chef's kiss. The attention to details is brilliant. I am 40% through with the post and I couldn't contain my excitement to post here. This is lovely.

doawoo

2024-12-17
as a kinesthetic learner I really cannot say how invaluable the interactive widgets are, so wonderfully done.

Jun8

2024-12-17
I’ve always wondered how different human culture would be if we had multiple moons. Related: the relationship between lunar and menstrual cycles is an open question, eg see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3716780/ or https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7840133/

unit149

2024-12-17
An order of magnitude above and below the speed of a falling object - exporting the JSON file that has its unadulterated gravitational force data. Dark matter and Newtonian mechanics are epiphenomenal modes of interlocking processes.

CobrastanJorji

2024-12-17
Could anyone recommend some introductory reading on orbital math? I had an idea rolling around in my brain for a while to make a little website simulating how various mathematicians and philosophers visualized the moon's orbit over the centuries, but I'm not great at math, lunar history, or math lunar history, so I'm curious where I'd get started on the reading.

tejendrasingh90

2024-12-17
Your journey from frustration to fascination with the moon is truly inspiring and beautifully captured!

GuB-42

2024-12-17
If you are interested in shaders, you can look at the source code. https://ciechanow.ski/js/moon.js

Like with all the other articles, it is straight up readable JS, with WebGL graphics, no dependencies.

wwarner

2024-12-17
bravo, really clear

aussieguy1234

2024-12-17
The other side of the moon looks quite different to the tidally locked side we see from earth.

neves

2024-12-17
Do you know Which technology or frameworks is he using?

The animations and interactivity are great. I'm really impressed.

Borzadaran

2024-12-17
Wow, hats off to Bartosz! He has clearly poured so much time and effort into crafting this incredible blog. Hold on, though—check out their other articles too. Each one is a gem! Let's show some respect for his hard work—here's his sponsor link. Go ahead and support him!

https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-moon-118130286

sema4hacker

2024-12-17
I could spend a lifetime trying and still not create a web page as spectacular as this.

veunes

2024-12-17
This is a fantastic example of why the Internet can still be a magical place

smusamashah

2024-12-17
One thing which isn't clear (from the animations at least) is how moon revolves around sun.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_of_the_Moon#/media/Fil...

When looked from distance, it looks more like revolving around sun while getting effected by earth. Which is to say, th motion does not look like a spring/spiral at all, but like a wave instead.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/266426/what-does...

globular-toast

2024-12-17
Whenever these get posted I always play with it a bit, then look at the scroll bar and notice I'm about 10% through, if that. Has anyone ever read one of these to the bottom?

I guess in my mind this is just entertainment. I enjoy the visuals and interactivity, and marvel at the technical implementation, but I don't need to spend hours going through it. The only reason I would is if I actually wanted to learn this stuff, but so far nothing has come up that I need/want to learn at that level of detail.

I guess my question is, is this actually useful for education? Has anyone felt like they've really learnt something (ie. they could teach it to other people), after reading through one of these?

hejira

2024-12-17
Fantastic!

pytonslange

2024-12-17
Bartosz, your website is the most beautiful, glorious thing to ever grace my browser. I’m not even sure how to put it into words, but I LOVE YOU for doing what you do. Thank you for your brilliance. Thank you for making my day every time I visit. Never change. Please, just keep on being your awesome self.

red_admiral

2024-12-17
Any time I see a new article on that domain, I know I'm going to be distracted from work for an hour or so while I have a great time. Bartosz, your work is amazing.

itissid

2024-12-17
Very cool. Question about the interactive image at the top of the page: why do the craters appear more distinct near the boundary of the dark and bright side of the moon and kind of much less on the brigh side surface far away from the boundary?

_wire_

2024-12-17
> It was also the very first image I was actually not embarrassed to share - https://imgur.com/a/t9b1Uug

I was goofing around with the ciechanowski moon model and noticed that either this image or ciechanowski's simulation is flipped 180 (mirrored not rotated).

https://ciechanow.ski/moon/

So I googled moon images to see which one might be flipped (it would be amazing if the ciechanowski model was inverted) but after looking at about 100 images, 90/100 or more seem to be composites based on the same image. Not just that the moon presents the same face, but all the google results look based on literally the same image. So what if that image is flipped?

On an oblique note, I assume google reports such repetitions to almost any search— I've noticed there's a web dark pattern for results repetitions; see Amazon and Netflix. And AI results appear to be an obscenely amped-up repeater.

I'm interested in repetitiond news too: take Google news without any personalization— how the web may create an appearance of copious information that's actually very limited, and maybe very biased or completely wrong— e.g., Mandela Effect.

For example news of U.S. foreign affairs is routinely absurdly biased and narrow, such as the new leader in Syria leading "rebels" as in SW rebel alliance and not noting we've got a $10,000,000 bounty on his head for being a terrorist.

(Ask what you can do for Russia, not what Russia can do for you)

I keep second-guessing my own perceptions, like I'm cherrypicking, but the effect seems rampant, where very narrow and obviously contestable views are repeated as truisms and appear as such across many outlets.

I just saw a documentary called "The Program" which one more in and endless series of hype products about UFOs— this one tries to politicize the topic as a huge coverup a la JFK.

But what seems funny to me is term UFO! It's a fascinating term in its own right as it is used as a determinative noun based on an acronym where the key trait is "unidentified". In the truest sense all studies of UFOs must reveal nothing, by definition. And they do reveal nothing. As did this documentary. You may have never noticed, but nothing is something!

The moon is sort of like this: the biggest nothing in world. Does it even matter which is right (vs left vs correct) view?— I can't be bothered to look up. Besides some guys went there and all they found was rocks. Who would have guessed?! They brought some back and they've been completely forgotten about and misplaced out of boredom and irrelevancy.

It was more interesting when the noon could still possibly be green cheese. Now it's just orbital mechanics— a celestial pinball machine. A giant fusion reactor pours energy out across a gradient and somehow gives rise to everything we are. (Yawn, I'm sleepy).

Newton on gravity:

The last clause of your second Position I like very well. Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe innate gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & essential to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force {may} be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I beleive no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it. Gravity must be caused by an agent acting constantly according to certain laws, but whether this agent be material or immaterial is a question I have left to the consideration of my readers.

zoombippy

2024-12-17
A big ass ham sandwich too.

hi41

2024-12-17
This feels like a beautiful work of art! Great job, OP!

m3kw9

2024-12-17
Some of those interactable visualizations on scale and seeing the sun/moon/earth rotate at the same time is the best anywhere.

m3kw9

2024-12-17
Miles deep in to what seem like a subject we take for granted in everyday life.

zerop

2024-12-17
Can we give reference of these articles to LLMs and get them to write articles like this for educational contents and produce similar WebGL graphics code to render images. I mean, just use this style and produce educational content using AI. that might make the studies more interesting.

princemo4

2024-12-17
wow. can you imagine the amount of work that was put into this website?

01jonny01

2024-12-17
Amazing interactive article. It actually gave me hope in humanity, over LLMs. I could feel the love, creativity and effort that was put into it.

f3nter

2024-12-17
Pretty cool post! I thought I knew the moon, but after your post I guess I was wrong haha

pcunite

2024-12-17
The solar system is like a mechanical clock, a timepiece.

omnee

2024-12-17
I've already had the pleasure of learning from his previous post on 'Sound', and this one on the Moon is equally informative and beautiful. In the age of slop and pop-ups, it fills me with joy that there still exists on the internet such a brilliantly crafted blog that informs and educates the curious mind.